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Embryology and Quran – Islamic Science

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An embryo 6-7 menstruation weeks

The Quran says in Arabic 23-13 and 14 “Thom khalaqna alnotfat alaqa, fakhalaqna alalaqat modegha, khalaqna almodghat azama, fakasawna alesazm lahma, thom anshanah khalqan akhr”

The way we could put it in English is “Hence we (god), created the sperm into (or made it turn into) clot (or whatever it is) then created from it a lump then we created out of it bones (plural) then we covered the bones with flesh”

Now, in addition to the fact that many thinkers for 1000’s of years had theories and also some experience on the stages of embryo development, the above mentioned description is not more than what ordinary person could imagine, …building the structure first then hang the other parts on it or cover it with them…just like erecting a tent.

Now the clear fact that comes in many documents, out of which I could put my hands only on one of them is that, that is not the truth.

The truth as in the following document (MS Encarta 1998)

The implanted embryo consists of a hollow sphere, the blastocyst, containing a mass of cells, called the embryonic mass, attached by a stalk to one side of the encircling membrane. In a blastocyst less than two weeks old and measuring 1 mm (0.04 in) in diameter, the microscope reveals the amnion (a sac surrounding the embryo), chorion (a membrane that develops around the amnion and lines the uterine wall), yolk sac, and distinct germ layers.

In the third week a closed tube appears in which the brain and spinal cord are to developAnother tube, folding on itself, is developing into the heart, and at about this stage a portion of the minute yolk sac is enclosed in the body of the embryo to form a part of the embryonic alimentary canal. At the beginning of its fourth week the embryo, now about 4 to 5 mm (about 0.16 to 0.2 in) long, has the rudiments of eyes and ears, and each side of the neck shows four gill clefts. A tail is also present.

Early in the second month the buds of the arms and legs appear. The major internal organs begin to take shape, and in about the sixth week bones and muscles begin to form. By the third month the embryo is recognizable as that of a primate, and is now called a fetus. It has a definite face, with the mouth and nostrils distinct, and the external ears are forming. By the end of the eighth week the tail has usually been incorporated in the body, and in the 11th or 12th week the external genitals become evident. The human embryo is especially vulnerable to the damaging effects of X rays, of disease viruses such as measles, and of certain drugs during the fourth to the eighth week of gestation. These agents can result in the death of the embryo or in the birth of a child with deformed limbs or other abnormalities. By the fourth month an embryo is clearly recognizable as a human being.

The creation of the brain and the spine happens in parallel, (I think that the brain is neither flesh nor bones) and then long after the “BONES” of the arms starts developing which contradict the Quranic verses that tells us that all the bones are made first then it gets covered by flesh (only flesh as if we don’t have members in our bodies!!!).

by Ali Sina

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About Bjorn EnFiddle

I used to believe in Islam and recite the Quran without knowing a single meaning of the words. Today I am an apostate of Islam, and today i read the Quran and Hadith to know more about Islam. The more I learn the more I hate Islam. I do not believe in a god who has emotional problems over the actions of humans. I do not believe in a god who would ask to kill, and treat women like a sex toy.

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20 thoughts on “Embryology and Quran – Islamic Science

  1. The truth as in the following document (MS Encarta 1998) < —— bro Early in 2005, the online Encarta started to allow users to suggest changes to existing articles. Articles were not immediately updated. Instead, user feedback was submitted to Encarta's editors for review, copyediting, and approval. Contributors were not paid for their submissions.

    give us some authantics refferense no matter who wrote .

    Posted by naappe | June 3, 2011, 2:38 PM
    • will look in to it, and will provide all the details we can, but fact is nothing can come out of a blood clot, and flesh is not rendered over the bones as islam explains, but thanks for you suggestion, like i said we will look into it 🙂

      Posted by Bjorn EnFiddle | June 3, 2011, 2:45 PM
      • thanks for the comment still i will do my best to research 🙂

        Posted by naappe | June 3, 2011, 3:24 PM
      • Figure 1:
        Drawings illustrating the similarities in appearance between a leech and a human embryo at the alaqah stage. (Leech drawing from Human Development as Described in the Quran and Sunnah, Moore and others, p. 37, modified from Integrated Principles of Zoology, Hickman and others. Embryo drawing from The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 73.)
        The second meaning of the word alaqah is “suspended thing.” This is what we can see in figures 2 and 3, the suspension of the embryo, during the alaqah stage, in the womb of the mother.

        Figure 2:
        We can see in this diagram the suspension of an embryo during the alaqah stage in the womb (uterus) of the mother. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 66.)

        Figure 3:
        In this photomicrograph, we can see the suspension of an embryo (marked B) during the alaqah stage (about 15 days old) in the womb of the mother. The actual size of the embryo is about 0.6 mm. (The Developing Human, Moore, 3rd ed., p. 66, from Histology, Leeson and Leeson.)

        The third meaning of the word alaqah is “blood clot.” We find that the external appearance of the embryo and its sacs during the alaqah stage is similar to that of a blood clot. This is due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo during this stage (see figure 4). Also during this stage, the blood in the embryo does not circulate until the end of the third week. Thus, the embryo at this stage is like a clot of blood.
        Figure 4: Diagram of the primitive cardiovascular system in an embryo during the alaqah stage. The external appearance of the embryo and its sacs is similar to that of a blood clot, due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo. (The Developing Human, Moore, 5th ed., p. 65.)

        So the three meanings of the word alaqah correspond accurately to the descriptions of the embryo at the alaqah stage.
        The next stage mentioned in the verse is the mudghah stage. The Arabic word mudghah means “chewed substance.” If one were to take a piece of gum and chew it in his or her mouth and then compare it with an embryo at the mudghah stage, we would conclude that the embryo at the mudghah stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance. This is because of the somites at the back of the embryo that “somewhat resemble teethmarks in a chewed substance.” (see figures 5 and 6).
        Figure 5: Photograph of an embryo at the mudghah stage (28 days old). The embryo at this stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance, because the somites at the back of the embryo somewhat resemble teeth marks in a chewed substance. The actual size of the embryo is 4 mm. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 82, from Professor Hideo Nishimura, Kyoto University, Kyoto, Japan.)

        Figure 6: When comparing the appearance of an embryo at the mudghah stage with a piece of gum that has been chewed, we find similarity between the two.
        A) Drawing of an embryo at the mudghah stage. We can see here the somites at the back of the embryo that look like teeth marks. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 79.)
        B) Photograph of a piece of gum that has been chewed.

        Posted by naappe | June 3, 2011, 4:08 PM
  2. The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 6th ed.
    Keith L. Moore, Ph.D. & T.V.N. Persaud, Md., (Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1998), 2-18.

    “The Zygote results from the union of an oocyte and a sperm. A zygote is the beginning of a new human being. Human development begins at fertiliza
    tion, the process during which a male gamete or sperm … unites with a female gamete or oocyte … to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marks the beginning of each of us as a unique individual.”

    Posted by naappe | June 3, 2011, 3:01 PM
  3. Saunders is an American publisher. It is currently an imprint of Elsevier.
    Formerly independent, the W. B. Saunders company was acquired by CBS in 1968, who added it to their publishing division Holt, Rinehart & Winston. When CBS exited the publishing field in 1986, it sold the academic publishing units to Harcourt Brace Jovanovich. Harcourt was acquired by Reed Elsevier in 2000.

    Posted by naappe | June 3, 2011, 3:09 PM
  4. Keith L. Moore is a Professor Emeritus, Department of Anatomy and Cell Biology, University of Toronto, Canada.
    He is a wide-world eminent embryologist.
    He is the author of several medical textbooks, including:
    Clinically Oriented Anatomy (3rd Edition)
    The Developing Human (5th Edition)
    He was a former President of the Canadian Association of Anatomists, and of the American Association of Clinical Anatomists.
    He was honored by the Canadian Association of Anatomists with the prestigious J.C.B.

    Grant Award and in 1994.

    Posted by naappe | June 3, 2011, 3:10 PM
  5. Professor Keith L. Moore says:
    “I have read many statements in the Quran and Hadith referring to human reproduction and prenatal development. At first I was astonished by the accuracy of the statements that were recorded in the 7th century AD, before the science of embryology was established. Although I was aware of the glorious history of Muslim scientists in the 10th century AD, and some of their contributions to Medicine, I knew nothing about the religious facts and beliefs contained in the Quran and Sunnah.”
    “It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God, or Allah, because most of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later.
    This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of God, or Allah.”

    Moore stated that:

    “Because the staging of human embryos is complex, owing to the continuous process of change during development, it is proposed that a new system of classification could be developed using the terms mentioned in the Quran and Sunnah. The proposed system is simple, comprehensive, and conforms with present embryological knowledge.
    The intensive studies of the Quran and Hadith in the last four years have revealed a system of classifying human embryos that is amazing since it was recorded in the seventh century A.D. The descriptions in the Quran cannot be based on scientific knowledge in the seventh century”

    Professor Keith L. Moore uttered the “Shahadah”; he said: “I am a witness that there is no god save Allah and Muhammad is His last Messenger” and became a Muslim!

    Posted by naappe | June 3, 2011, 3:13 PM
  6. see the video — >

    this not the tho tho story or a fairy tales

    Posted by naappe | June 3, 2011, 3:18 PM
    • Posted by naappe | June 3, 2011, 8:16 PM
      • Posted by naappe | June 3, 2011, 8:20 PM
        • im sorry but i just cant believe it, cos sorta know that there is more to it, even after watching the lecture from the doc. if felt like it was made compatible to Quran, but anyways i turned to the science behind embryology and i found alot more to read about the real deal, and i find that Quran is not that details about it, but its muslims that making it compatible, they try really hard for it, taking advantage of the fact that Quran talks in riddles, (since muslims say to me, misinterpreted, wrong translation, your making it look bad.

          anyways i have not been able to read the whole thing yet but i’d like to share this with you, but its like a whole department down the science of embryology, care to read with me and learn more about it? cos im seriously telling you there is so much more to it

          http://www.embryology.ch/anglais/aobjetEmbr/objectembryo.html

          🙂

          Posted by Bjorn EnFiddle | June 3, 2011, 9:59 PM
  7. your link displays scientists who have researched on fetal development according to the quran in which they all claim to be accurate

    .http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Science/embryo.htmlThe

    above website explains the inaccuracy and false facts given on embryo development in the quran and other islamic texts.

    Posted by maldivianskeptic | June 3, 2011, 4:12 PM

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